fighting to abolish the irs. >> better than romney o or obama's? party crashers. and that is our show. john: a sporting events. two candidates competing there are other people in the ring they have better ideas that obama or mitt romney? why should we even care? they probably will not win. matt welch says we should care because, i will let them explain. declaration of independence sing it can fix what is wrong and also running the candidate for ralph nader and author of "grand illusion." >> the two parties ask stack the deck against independent candidates starting with the ballot to laws which is the number one problem. how do i get off the ballot? john: just give a bunch of signatures. >> tens of thousands are hundreds. >> you may have to get 2 million signatures to protect yourself from people who tried to knock you off the ballot who less you interrupt the predictable outcome. john: of the system was more open they would be better off? >> when the two parties alternate like endanger the drug war there would be discussed in a way that had a healthier discourse.